Bongard Problems
03-13-2014, 04:50 AM
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Bongard Problems
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Long story short, you have to figure out what the left side items have in common that the right side items lack. I was thinking it might be fun to pose Bongard problems to each other, but to make things easier, it might be better to do textual ones, like this: Group A: try sum not let nil won Group B: house monkey nachos trim blonde Mag!cGuy Now, surely the solution is that Group A contains words with exactly three letters, while Group B contains words with a number of letters that is not three. That is an easy example. Here's one to start with: Group A: Italy Yemen Germany Egypt Cyprus Malaysia Group B: Georgia France Wales Mexico Honduras Canada Anyone want to solve this and create another one? |
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03-13-2014, 05:04 AM
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RE: Bongard Problems
Countries with and without the letter y?
Also, for your example problem, I thought it was something about Outwitters skill, where group A might have some while B surely doesn't... I'll pose one: Group A Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit Chrono Trigger Balloon Fight Call of Duty: Modern Warfare Diddy Kong Racing Banjo Tooie Group B The Legend of Zelda: Majoras Mask Super Mario Galaxy 2 Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Donkey Kong Country Returns Pokemon Blue Super Smash Bros. Brawl GC name: amoffett11 1v1 2v2 with .Memories. and 2v2 random Until you stalk and overrun you can't devour anyone |
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03-13-2014, 05:24 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-13-2014 05:37 AM by TheGreatErenan.)
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RE: Bongard Problems
Yes to the with and without the letter y answer. That is right.
No to the Outwitters skill answer. Clearly all monkeys have some significant measure of Outwitters skill. |
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03-13-2014, 05:37 AM
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RE: Bongard Problems
(03-13-2014 05:04 AM)amoffett11 Wrote: Also, for your example problem, I thought it was something about Outwitters skill, where group A might have some while B surely doesn't... Thank you! As for yours,isn't it like the first group:random games and the second: nintendo's? You can ask a... (drawing by Chemoeum) |
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03-13-2014, 05:37 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-13-2014 05:38 AM by TheGreatErenan.)
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RE: Bongard Problems
The answer to amoffett's is:
Group A members have two of the same letter appearing consecutively (double O, double E, double L, etc.). Group B members do not have this property. Group A: banana color belvedere hindsight humbug pascal Group B: tricycle balrog minus random wellington kangaroo Here's another that is probably very tricky (maybe too tricky, but I wanted to make one that was quite hard): Group A: AAVAO AAAO VAVAX AVAVAO VVVAX VAAVAVX Group B: VAAAX VVAAO VO AVAX AAAVVVO AAVAAAVX (03-13-2014 05:37 AM)Mag!cGuy Wrote: As for yours,isn't it like the first group:random games and the second: nintendo's? Sonic 2 is a Sega Genesis game. |
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03-13-2014, 05:43 AM
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RE: Bongard Problems
Great Erenan is correct. I tried to throw some other patterns in there (sequels, etc.) to possibly throw people off.
I've solved your first one Erenan (I'll give other's some time to figure it out if they want to though), but the second not yet. GC name: amoffett11 1v1 2v2 with .Memories. and 2v2 random Until you stalk and overrun you can't devour anyone |
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03-13-2014, 05:45 AM
(This post was last modified: 03-13-2014 05:46 AM by TheGreatErenan.)
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RE: Bongard Problems
(03-13-2014 05:43 AM)amoffett11 Wrote: Great Erenan is correct. I tried to throw some other patterns in there (sequels, etc.) to possibly throw people off. That did throw me off for a while. In fact, even just the fact that they are all video games is a red herring. |
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03-13-2014, 05:46 AM
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RE: Bongard Problems
I found for the first one too! *so proud*
You can ask a... (drawing by Chemoeum) |
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03-13-2014, 06:09 AM
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RE: Bongard Problems
Erenan's first one is repeated vowels. I don't have the second one yet.
GCID: FrozenNorthernKid 1v1, 2v2 w/baustin42, w/spacechef 2v2 random, w/ Extreme Ghost, w/ izzilla ------------------------------------------------ "So it goes." - Kurt Vonnegut, 'Slaughterhouse Five' |
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03-13-2014, 06:51 AM
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RE: Bongard Problems
Can you have more than one parameter?
Doowhat? Doodat? Okey:3 1v1 - Peak #32 // Current #56 as AlliDooisRush 2v2 - w/jesusfuentesh #7 2v2 - w/baustin #17 // w/Juslas #85 // Randoms #38 |
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