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Alvendor · 05-20-2013, 05:47 AM

(05-19-2013 09:19 AM)Deadbeatman Wrote: Their are plenty of players in the top 50 that win games with feedback vs Adorables 1v1 so why is their any doubt that feedback can not be compared with Adorables in the top games?

I mean I'm not the expert on the subject, speaking strictly from viewing ST 1v1 replays. I'm just curious, apparently not as much as you are, to know the why Adorables can not be competed with by feedback. Sure, as you have showed in your games the starting out strategy is slightly different, and which units you'll depend on the most.

I believe that isn't the belief in 2v2 teams.

Before the wit for kill change Scallywags was considered the strongest race. After the wit for kill change people slowly started to realize that the change was really good for adorables as move/kill/teleport back suddenly became one wit cheaper. More and more players switched to adorables and now the large majority of the top 10 are playing them.

Lets consider Feedback vs Scallywags, opponent has a bombshell with soldiers in front. A best case scenario for us would be:
* move out with a hidden unboosted scrambler - 8 wits
Next turn:
* move and scramble soldier next to bombshell - 1 wit
* attack bombshell, move back with scrambled soldier, move and kill bombshell with other soldier - 3 wits.
* Opponent will kill our (4hp) solider - 4 wits.

So this costs us 16 wits but we gain a 1 hp soldier worth 2 wits so total cost 14.

Opponent loose: 4hp soldier and boosted bombshell - 15
It also costs opponent one wit to kill our 4 hp soldier so a total of 16 wits.

So in a perfect exchange we can gain 2 wits by trading a scrambler for a bombshell. Problem is that it is so much that can go wrong that usually swings the wits balance in scallywags favor.

But maybe this is not the only option and feedback can do larger attacks and avoid trading like above?

For adorables it is not as easy to count wits for typical exchanges. I think adorables is easier to play though. You are not as likely to screw up with a mobi. You also usually want to hide scramblers and that requires you to think of what your opponent thinks you do.