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01-30-2013, 04:17 AM (This post was last modified: 01-30-2013 04:22 AM by Ja Karta.)
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RE: Update!!
(01-30-2013 03:51 AM)EkoFox Wrote:  Don't you pay for each move of any unit? Why did you feel the need to make that point?
It sounds like you're not managing your wits and are upset about losing your bramble patches a lot because you aren't protecting your parents.
The reason I mentioned paying for each move was in response to the idea that you could have a barrier "pretty much anywhere on the field" for the cost of 1. The cost for that 1 barrier is equivalent to moving a heavy to that point.

The analysis is more complex. Since there are both ups and downs to your soldier leaving a trail when accessing a given point. Indeed, part of the bramble game is making that trail. However, it's not 1 point to put a barrier "pretty much anywhere". Wink

For my own part, as a mid-level player only (and very new to this game; though with a formal background in game theory and analysis, for what it's worth [which is only kinda something Smile ]) I don't have a lot of problem with losing parents. I do have a problem with the high time and wit cost of setting up. And, based on only a few games now(!), I find that barriers are more counterable now that they give a wit for being destroyed and can be destroyed in one hit.

Like I said, ultimate utility is tbd. I'm just placing my bets for the time being. Wink

[Note: one positive of this change is that it definitely will cause people to change up their unit choices. That's great from a design perspective. Smile And if that can be exploited well by veggies I think will be key to the utility of this change.]
[[Edit: And as Alex nicely reiterated parent protection is very difficult if you are quickly putting up brambles for a rush. Though I didn't think that point was being challenged any longer.]]

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