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Where are my losses listed? Game statistics - calmon - 07-15-2012 05:07 AM
I just lost my fist game but I can't find a stat about it.
When I click on profile I see that I won 41 games but the loss is not listed.
Do I habe to write it on paper or why is this information missed?
RE: Where are my losses listed? Game statistics - Mowmail - 07-15-2012 05:16 AM
Yes, you will have to write it down. Currently outwitters doesn't track your losses. Only your wins.
RE: Where are my losses listed? Game statistics - calmon - 07-15-2012 05:26 AM
Oh my... Let me guess: its because some marketing people said to the developers:
Its bad for business when some cruel player see how much games they loss. They may stop playing because of that.
Its this stupid reason. I bet on it
RE: Where are my losses listed? Game statistics - Mowmail - 07-15-2012 05:38 AM
No, but I think that it will be avalible in a future update
RE: Where are my losses listed? Game statistics - Glorishears - 07-15-2012 06:07 AM
Whether some marketing person said it or not, it's true, having a losing record is depressing.
My suggestion - track w/l by league of your opponent. Then hopefully you'll be able to say, yea, I'm 1-10 vs Super Titan, but at least I'm 6-3 against players in my own league. It'd take a bit of thought as to how to show it and still have the profile pages look as nice as they do, but I'm sure it can be done.
RE: Where are my losses listed? Game statistics - Harti - 07-15-2012 06:24 AM
(07-15-2012 05:26 AM)calmon Wrote: Oh my... Let me guess: its because some marketing people said to the developers:
Its bad for business when some cruel player see how much games they loss. They may stop playing because of that.
I don't think that it requires marketing experts to know that.
That could probably be the reason for the number not to be there. Also it's some kind of UI problem I guess because you wouldn't wanna put it directly onto your profile page since everybody could see it and laugh at you.
Whatever the case, I don't mind that I don't know the frequency of my losses. I can only roughly estimate the percentage of won games and that's enough.
RE: Where are my losses listed? Game statistics - onealexleft - 07-15-2012 06:25 AM
(07-15-2012 05:26 AM)calmon Wrote: Oh my... Let me guess: its because some marketing people said to the developers:
Its bad for business when some cruel player see how much games they loss. They may stop playing because of that.
Its this stupid reason. I bet on it
we don't have a marketing department :|. Maybe I can hire my cat for marketing head.
The reasoning is 2 fold:
1. Yes, it's not encouraging to see a ton of losses if you're in the lower leagues. We're trying to encourage people to play in the leagues, not beat them with a stick when they are simply learning.
2. Given how the matchmaking system should work, within a few weeks your w/l will trend to 50/50. Making a w/l display almost meaningless as it hovers around 47-52%. The only players that would consistently get 50%+ are top master and super titan players.
That said, we're open to showing w/l for top tier players who might benefit the most from such a statistic in the future.
RE: Where are my losses listed? Game statistics - calmon - 07-15-2012 07:06 AM
mkaen I just hoped to have a strategy game but its again filled with people who not even understand first player bonus and people who have problems with losses.
RE: Where are my losses listed? Game statistics - Glorishears - 07-15-2012 07:21 AM
For the top tier players, who are going to wind up playing each other a lot by the nature of the matching system, what you want to know is your record against a particular person. Maybe add that to the profile pages - if you've ever played someone before, show your record vs them. Maybe even a complete list of games too - then the obsessives among us can go over what worked and didn't
work last time.
Yes, you can keep notes yourself on all the stuff, but having the game track it yourself would be nice.
The record vs league would not trend to 50-50 for the leagues above or below you, either.
RE: Where are my losses listed? Game statistics - revlisoft - 07-15-2012 07:37 AM
I would love to see stats showing
- total losses & wins
- losses & wins for each map w/ ratio
- opponent played history
- total turns / maps