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RE: Buff? - connor34911 - 01-05-2013 07:32 AM
(01-05-2013 07:25 AM)Phyresis Wrote:(01-05-2013 07:22 AM)connor34911 Wrote:(01-05-2013 07:12 AM)GreatGonzales Wrote:(01-05-2013 07:05 AM)Phyresis Wrote:(01-05-2013 07:02 AM)SerPurpleWolf Wrote: Rooting after uprooting on the same turn would be nice. The bombshell can do it. :/
Its idiotic that bombshell can and bramble cant.
This I like. Not sure that it's a big enough buff though?
No takers for the reducing bombshell vine splash and scrambler converting vines?
The problem with doing something that only effects one race, is it, well, only affects one matchup. I would be upset as a feedback player if there was one unit that i couldn't scramble, and it was only on one team. Same thing as a scallywags player if the only difference between a sniper and my special i worked so hard to protect suddenly disappears vs one unit.
While you have a point about the bombshell i still like the idea. I would also argue that the vines are a "barrier" not an actual unit, and should not be able to be scrambled anyways.
Another option would be to completely revamp it, make vines cost 2 wits to place but do one damage when attacked.
RE: Buff? - Ser Purple Wolf - 01-05-2013 07:41 AM
We could all be wrong.
They could buff the bombshell to 5 health. Maybe the scrambler to 3?
Mobi can teleport for no wit cost?
[Just Kidding, hopefully]
RE: Buff? - Gf!sh - 01-05-2013 07:48 AM
Mobi can jet a unit 2 hexes away
RE: Buff? - onealexleft - 01-05-2013 08:03 AM
It's going to be a buff to Bramble specifically. As to what it will be, we're experimenting internally right now and will hopefully have a beta for players to try in a few days.
RE: Buff? - BuzzleBee123 - 01-05-2013 08:42 AM
(01-05-2013 08:03 AM)onealexleft Wrote: It's going to be a buff to Bramble specifically. As to what it will be, we're experimenting internally right now and will hopefully have a beta for players to try in a few days.
Will the beta for the next update only have previous beta testers or can new players sign up? Also does it matter their league?
RE: Buff? - Thrutchy - 01-05-2013 08:49 AM
Here are couple buffs I can think of for the bramble:
* 1 wit to remove a thorn (and its children)
* be able to attack your own thorn just like your opponent can (if the above is too much).
RE: Buff? - laYahooz - 01-05-2013 10:00 AM
Heres a good buff I just thought of: Thorns cannot be attacked from range. I personally think that this would balance the scally vs veggienuat matchup. Only the scallies, essentially, destroy the veggies vines from a range. I think it would also limit the mobi's power more since right now the mobi has a little more diversity vs. veggies. Against feedback it probably wouldn't change anything which IMO is fine. Feedback vs. veggies is perfectly balanced.
I also support thrutchy's idea of allowing you own unit to attack a thorn to remove it. Also give it a plus one wit.
RE: Buff? - Phyresis - 01-05-2013 01:54 PM
Applying the wit per kill to thorns would ruin bramble.
RE: Buff? - Ser Purple Wolf - 01-05-2013 02:37 PM
I think he meant a wit would be returned if I killed my own bramble thorn.
RE: Buff? - RandyDogz - 01-05-2013 03:29 PM
(01-05-2013 08:49 AM)Thrutchy Wrote: Here are couple buffs I can think of for the bramble:
* 1 wit to remove a thorn (and its children)
* be able to attack your own thorn just like your opponent can (if the above is too much).
For 2, instead of attacking it what if you could move a friendly unit onto the thorn, and this makes the thorn (but not any children) disappear. I think that'd give the veggies more flexability and attacking power. Right now if you don't have snipers out your opponent can move up to the thorns and stuff any forward movement and/or attacks.
Some sort of selective thorn removal would be good. Bad thorn placement can really screw you over, and uprooting everything to fix one bad thorn is painful.