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New bramble say what!!
03-10-2013, 12:52 PM
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RE: New bramble say what!!
Making it cost a wit to retract won't solve anything. Veggienauts are very strong even without using the retraction mechanic at all. Even if you took away the ability to retract entirely it wouldn't help much. The main problem is that the best counter to thorns is now also very susceptible to them (the sniper). Heavies seem like they could work, but in practice it does not. Why? Because thorns have great reach so you can spawn them all across the board but heavies are too slow to deal with them all. If your opponent spawns a heavy to defend one area, just use your thorns to harass another. Heavies are expensive so your opponent will be hard pressed to get heavies everywhere they need to to defend. Boosted soldiers with snipers behind are probably the best bet, or bombshell if you are scallywags. Still, it's hard to get soldiers out quickly enough to deal with all the thorns (note, I don't mean that you should be seeking to kill thorns with your soldiers, but rather that the soldiers should act as a buffer to keep your snipers from the thorns).

2 hp thorn patches are worth a shot. While we're talking about testing changes, I think we should also try a slight buff for Feedback. Perhaps scrambled units take 1 damage instead of going to 1 health? Or some people have even suggested not losing any health at all though this might be too strong. I also think something needs to be done about Adorables but it's not as straightforward how to fix it.

Before the +1 wit patch Scallywags seemed favored over Adorables, but Adorables could still compete (we had players like poweewee up there after all). However now days there are NO scallywags players competing at the top and very few Feedback. Veggienauts have the spotlight at the moment, but we shouldn't forget about Adorables. (This is kind of a side note, but it's interesting to see that Adorable usage on OSN has surpassed Scallywags usage by quite a margin despite Scallywags being the free team).

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New bramble say what!! - AEON - 03-09-2013, 11:48 PM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Harti - 03-10-2013, 12:34 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Gf!sh - 03-10-2013, 12:39 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - ElPared - 03-10-2013, 06:46 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - ElPared - 03-10-2013, 06:49 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Mag!cGuy - 03-10-2013, 07:34 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - laYahooz - 03-10-2013, 07:44 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - ElPared - 03-10-2013, 10:29 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Ja Karta - 03-10-2013, 10:41 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - CombatEX - 03-10-2013 12:52 PM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Mrdemaria - 03-10-2013, 03:40 PM
RE: New bramble say what!! - garcia1000 - 03-10-2013, 04:23 PM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Mrdemaria - 03-11-2013, 09:59 PM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Mag!cGuy - 03-10-2013, 05:53 PM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Wildt4lon - 03-10-2013, 06:17 PM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Mrdemaria - 03-10-2013, 08:17 PM
RE: New bramble say what!! - garcia1000 - 03-10-2013, 09:05 PM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Mrdemaria - 03-10-2013, 09:11 PM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Piko - 03-10-2013, 11:46 PM
RE: New bramble say what!! - M C chan - 03-11-2013, 12:14 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Gf!sh - 03-11-2013, 02:13 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Gf!sh - 03-11-2013, 02:54 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - EkoFox - 03-11-2013, 02:40 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Pareesauce - 03-11-2013, 04:52 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Piko - 03-11-2013, 02:49 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Piko - 03-11-2013, 03:16 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - laYahooz - 03-11-2013, 03:19 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Harti - 03-11-2013, 04:55 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Pareesauce - 03-11-2013, 07:36 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Mrdemaria - 03-11-2013, 10:43 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Uvafan173 - 03-11-2013, 11:20 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - laYahooz - 03-11-2013, 11:52 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - ElPared - 03-11-2013, 05:05 PM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Mustafa.69 - 03-11-2013, 06:42 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Ryzuma - 03-11-2013, 08:32 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Pareesauce - 03-11-2013, 08:47 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - garcia1000 - 03-11-2013, 11:33 AM
RE: New bramble say what!! - Mag!cGuy - 03-12-2013, 07:10 AM

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