Win/Loss ratio required for promotion

[phineas94]

I thought this might be helpful to a lot of players and collate as much info from all you Outwitters stat nerds to give people an idea of what sort of quantity of games and ratio of win/loss is required to get promoted in every game mode (It may be that all types of play have the same statistical requirements but I'll start by splitting them up). There are loads of threads explaining/guessing the promotion mechanics and I'll add them when I've got time, or you could just search under "prom". So if you were thinking of posting something like this.....

"I'm top of my league with 2386 points! Why haven't I been promoted????????????" posted by can'tusetheforumsearchfunction67

"This is ridiculous! I got promoted after a defeat! This has to be a bug" posted by -(angryyoungman)-

"This is ridiculous! I got demoted after a win! This has to be a bug" posted by -(veryangryyoungman)-

.........don't!

"I was just wondering how many wins I need to get promoted?" posted by RaYoFlIgHt

Thankyou RaYoFlIgHt. Yes, it's all about your win/loss ratio.............almost. Your hidden ranking is obviously key in determining your division but I'm going to ignore this for now and just go for the pure numbers. If you're nearing promotion you will start getting paired against players from the division above you - this could happen 5 times or 15 times before promotion occurs, just keep on winning.

So please send in your promotion stats I'll add them to the list and with any luck we'll get an idea of just what sort of results are required or if you're updating your already posted records just PM me.

I'm going to differentiate between results for promotion from scratch (From your first game after promotion to being promoted again) and results for promotion from the league you were placed in after your 5 placement games (Let me know how many placement games you won). If you've been in a rut for a while before promotion just post your last 20 results.

Division after placement games

(and position in division)

0 wins - Fluffy (Bottom)
1 win - Fluffy (Bottom)
2 wins - Fluffy / Clever???
3 wins - Clever
4 wins - Clever (Bottom) / Gifted (Bottom) / Masters (in arranged 2v2!)
5 wins - Gifted (Top) / Masters

Promotion Statistics

( Promotion from scratch = x wins y losses; Last 20 games = (x wins y losses); Promotion from placement = (x /5) )

1v1

Promoted to

phineas94 (15 wins 5 losses); Cor13:4 42 wins 9 losses; Thrutchy 33 wins 5 losses; Bombshell BB 40 wins 7 losses; Szei 41 wins 2 losses (5/5 vs STs); Scrambler Baby 35 wins 0 losses (15/15 vs STs !!!!!); Little Thorn 44 wins 6 losses (18 wins 2 losses)

Promoted to

Wh00psiedaisy ,Cor13:4, Wildt4lon, Scrambler Baby, Szei & Little Thorn 1 win 0 losses (5/5); Szei's other account 8 straight losses followed by 15 straight wins (5/5); Bombshell BB 28 wins 1 loss (4/5); Thrutchy 25 wins 1 loss

Promoted to

Thrutchy 31 wins 0 losses (4/5); ForTheWin 17 wins 0 losses; 1outof5 18 wins 0 losses

Promoted to

ForTheWin 12 wins 0 losses (0/5); 1outof5 13 wins 0 losses (1/5)

Arranged 2v2

Promoted to
acameronp & kittyqats 9 wins 3 losses (5/5)


Promoted to

phineas94 & -hokusai- 1 win 0 losses(5/5); phineas94 & Zaepian 21 wins 1 loss; .Memories. & {~BiA85~} (20 wins 0 losses)

Promoted to

phineas94 & Zaepian 5 wins 1 loss (3/5)

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Random 2v2

Promoted to

Juslas (5/5) 13 wins 6 losses

Promoted to

phineas94 27 wins 3 losses; Juslas (5/5)

Promoted to

phineas94 10 wins 1 loss

Results needed to get into Top200 from being placed in Masters
(Multiple rankings for one player/team show total games played in Masters, not number of games from last ranking))

1v1

Sham!e 13 wins 2 losses (rank 183); Wh00psiedaisy 11 wins 1 loss (rank 193), 16 wins 2 losses (rank 131), 24 wins 3 losses (rank 76); Scrambler Baby 13 wins 0 losses (rank 200), 14 wins 0 losses (rank 182), 15 wins 0 losses (rank 166), 17 wins 0 losses (rank 138), 20 wins 0 losses (rank 85), 31 wins 0 losses (rank 44)

Arranged 2v2

phineas94 & Zaepian 4 wins 0 losses (rank 184), 7 wins 0 losses (rank 170), 16 wins 1 loss (rank 103) 17 wins 2 losses (rank 102), 18 wins 2 losses (rank 94), 19 wins 2 losses (rank 85), 20 wins 3 losses (rank 82), 22 wins 3 losses (rank 66), 23 wins 4 losses (rank 65);
Mag!cGuy & bluharbour 7 wins 3 losses (rank 33); Juslas & bobolynx (5/5) (rank 119); acameronp & kittyqats 14 wins 4 losses (5/5) (rank 23); acameronp & -Japsie- 8 wins 1 loss (5/5) (rank 38)

Random 2v2

phineas94 2 wins 0 losses (rank 87), 5 wins 2 losses (rank 71), 7wins 2 losses (rank 67); Juslas (5/5) (rank 41) - read this post, 1 win 1 loss (rank 39), 2 wins 1 loss (rank 11), 3 wins 1 loss (rank 14), 4 wins 1 loss (rank 10), 5 wins 1 loss (rank 9), 5 wins 3 losses (rank 13), 6 wins 3 losses (rank 16), 6 wins 3 losses (rank 11), 9 wins 3 losses (rank 10), 10 wins 3 losses (rank 10), 13 wins 6 losses (rank 10), 16 wins 6 losses (rank 3), 20 wins 9 losses (rank 5), 20 wins 11 losses (rank 12), 20 wins 13 losses (rank 14), 22 wins 17 losses (rank 22), 24 wins 17 losses (rank 12), 28 wins 17 losses (rank 8), 29 wins 19 losses (rank 8), 32 wins 21 losses (rank 7)

Guestimate conclusions on win/loss record for 1v1

Promotion from bottom of Fluffy needs 5 or so wins to get to the required hidden rank then the system logs the next 5 or so games for win/loss ratio

Promotion from bottom of Clever needs about 15 wins to get to the required hidden rank then the system logs the next 10 or so games for win/loss ratio

Promotion from bottom of Gifted needs about 15 wins to get to the required hidden rank then the system logs the next 15 or so games for win/loss ratio

Promotion from bottom of Master needs about 15 wins to get to the required hidden rank then the system logs the next 20 or so games for win/loss ratio (70% win rate required)

[[PETA] Cor13:4]

I have (nearly) the complete record of all games I've played on OSN. I've only missed recording 3 games (2 wins and 1 loss). There is one anomaly in that a game against !<manPower>! somehow got mixed up with someone else's game and it shows as the oldest game, but that was really somewhere in the middle of my masters play. And, I entered my first two games after placement in the wrong order, so the game against "my game > your game" is really after I had reached masters on my 6th game.

So if you check, this is what happened for me:
**** 1v1 ****
Placement: 5 Wins -> Gifted
1st game after placement -> Masters
51 games after Masters (win ratio 42/51) -> Supertitan

**** 2v2 Random ****
Placement 5 Wins -> Masters (and BTW, this instantly put me in the top 200, 6 wins and I was #80)

On another account: Kittyqats

**** 2v2 Team ****
Placement 5 Wins -> Masters

[phineas94]

Thanks. Added

[TheGoldenGriffin]

I was in fluffy rank 1 for a while and then the update changed the scoring system a little and i got promoted shortly after. I lost about half my points which left me at around 200 points. Then in a week i win streaked my way from the 40s to 20-15s and i got promoted. My promotion game was a loss but i got ranked higher than my opponent with around 100 points.

I'd say skyrocketing up the leaderboards with 5-8 wins straight should get you promoted

[phineas94]

Thanks for your input goldengriffin but the purpose of this thread is to create a little database for anyone interested and to educate players that their league points and/or league position bear little or no relevance to their chances of promotion, it's about their win/loss ratio. Sure a #1 ranked player could be near promotion but they could also just be playing a tonne of games and winning say 1 in 3 and at that ratio would never get promoted. As you can see from the results already posted it isn't 5-8 straight wins = promotion.

Do you have records of your career? More the merrier

[TheGoldenGriffin]

I said i win streaked, meaning i won a bunch of games in a row so the ratio would've been like 9:2

[phineas94]

(06-01-2013 06:39 AM)TheGoldenGriffin Wrote:  I said i win streaked, meaning i won a bunch of games in a row so the ratio would've been like 9:2

From what division?

[TheGoldenGriffin]

It was season 2, Young Face

[phineas94]

From what division? Fluffy to clever? Clever to gifted? If it was from fluffy, how many games did you win in your placement matches?

[TheGoldenGriffin]

Young Face was a Clever division. I didn't understand the game at first so i got placed in fluffy Bending Light division, im sure i won at least 1 game. After i got promoted to clever, i quickly got promoted to gifted Running Bull division