Rising Star Tournament - CONCLUDED

[Giu-BR]

Group C

outwitters://viewgame?id=ag5vdXR3aXR0ZXJzZ2FtZXIRCxIIR2FtZVJvb20Ygcf3Agw
Winner: Giu-BR

outwitters://viewgame?id=ag5vdXR3aXR0ZXJzZ2FtZXIRCxIIR2FtZVJvb20Y5L73Agw
Jopablo! Wins

outwitters://viewgame?id=ag5vdXR3aXR0ZXJzZ2FtZXIRCxIIR2FtZVJvb20Y0s73Agw
Winner: Giu-BR

outwitters://viewgame?id=ag5vdXR3aXR0ZXJzZ2FtZXIRCxIIR2FtZVJvb20Yj_X1Agw
Winner: Giu-BR

outwitters://viewgame?id=ag5vdXR3aXR0ZXJzZ2FtZXIRCxIIR2FtZVJvb20Ymbv2Agw
Winner: Giu-BR

[Qlearn]

Eijolend,

I am not sure if you missed this result posted back on page 25 for I didn't see updated in Challonge

Group C
Lucasan.mx vs ViciousDane
Winner - Lucasan.mx
outwitters://viewgame?id=ag5vdXR3aXR0ZXJzZ2FtZXIRCxIIR2FtZVJvb20Y5oD8Agw

Cheers.

[Eijolend]

(03-01-2013 09:49 AM)*McFly* Wrote:  outwitters://viewgame?id=ag5vdXR3aXR0ZXJzZ2FtZXIRCxIIR2FtZVJvb20YpJz7Agw

McFly beat miguelsn

outwitters://viewgame?id=ag5vdXR3aXR0ZXJzZ2FtZXIRCxIIR2FtZVJvb20YpJz7Agw

McFly beat TeeDubby

Group D

That's twice the same replay, can you please provide the correct link for the second one?

(03-01-2013 03:45 PM)Qlearn Wrote:  Eijolend,

I am not sure if you missed this result posted back on page 25 for I didn't see updated in Challonge

Group C
Lucasan.mx vs ViciousDane
Winner - Lucasan.mx
outwitters://viewgame?id=ag5vdXR3aXR0ZXJzZ2FtZXIRCxIIR2FtZVJvb20Y5oD8Agw

Cheers.

It's fixed now!

[Sal702]

Question: Team A. Sal702 and Breaumont are tied for 1st place. Do we need to challenge each other? I noticed we both passed to the next round already

[Gf!sh]

(03-02-2013 03:37 AM)Sal702 Wrote:  Question: Team A. Sal702 and Breaumont are tied for 1st place. Do we need to challenge each other? I noticed we both passed to the next round already

If i'm correct, Breaumont gets first place, and you get second because he beat you in your game.

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I've taken another look at the rules. Please don't flip a coin to decide full ties. That's gonna be godawful.

[{~BiA85~}]

How does the 2nd tie breaker work? From what I understand group F will have a 3way tie of 4-1 records each of us losing to one of the others. So then it would go to the coin flip? Ugh...

Edit: assuming they each win their game against slowmike who may or may not be active.

[OW11]

(02-27-2013 06:58 PM)Eijolend Wrote:  

(02-27-2013 05:31 PM)OW11 Wrote:  Group G

outwitters://viewgame?id=ag5vdXR3aXR0ZXJzZ2FtZXIRCxIIR2FtZVJvb20YxKP2Agw

Winner is Outwitter11

Who the hell is krazyxman? Did _Trione change his GC Name?

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No looked it up, that's not him. So what's this game doing here?

Sorry wrong tourney. _Trione beat me BTW.

[Eijolend]

(03-02-2013 04:08 AM)Gfich Wrote:  

(03-02-2013 03:37 AM)Sal702 Wrote:  Question: Team A. Sal702 and Breaumont are tied for 1st place. Do we need to challenge each other? I noticed we both passed to the next round already

If i'm correct, Breaumont gets first place, and you get second because he beat you in your game.

Gfich is correct - the first Tie-Breaker "Head to Head" means, the person who won the game that both of the tied players already played, wins the tie.
So Breaumont will take first place and sal702 gets second place, as already noted in the document where you looked up the groups: >>click<<

So now to the more complicated part:

(03-02-2013 04:15 AM){~BiA85~} Wrote:  How does the 2nd tie breaker work? From what I understand group F will have a 3way tie of 4-1 records each of us losing to one of the others. So then it would go to the coin flip? Ugh...

Edit: assuming they each win their game against slowmike who may or may not be active.

The 2nd tiebreaker means you sum up the points of the opponents you won against. This means that wins against strong opponents are rewarded more while losses against weaker opponents are punished less.

The reason why I didn't want to include more than 2 tiebreaker rules is, there aren't really any other good ones. Base Health and Turn Count are often not indicative of who controlled the game and has problems to incorporate resigned games or byes.
Giving the win to the player who won more games as P2 (like in chess for more wins with black), but since not everyone played the same amount of P2 games (and I just discovered that challonge has a horrible flaw) I don't think that's ideal either.

What I didn't account for is that Sonneborn-Berger is absolutely useless for 3way 4-1 ties if Head-to-Head doesn't work.
I don't want to play an additional full playoff round like the World Cup, since I really really want this tournament to be shorter, so not all of my participants are in masters by the time it ends.
So if you're really unhappy with the random draw, I'd propose a kind of Sudden Death playoff with the rules of the Micro strategic tournament, where you are not allowed to build ANY units.

What do you all think?

[{~BiA85~}]

I'll leave it up to the others. I guess if it comes to a coin flip at least I have 66% chance to make it. The random gods do not like me though.

[TheGoldenGriffin]

Hntrlln still hasn't invited me yet. How long do i have to wait?