Two Mans Left 2v2 Tournament (CHAMPIONS: HOLYSAB & PHARMAFAN!)

laYahooz · 01-16-2013, 10:28 AM

(01-16-2013 09:47 AM)GreatGonzales Wrote: Stay tuned folks, will have seeding and brackets for you in the next couple of hours.

Nice! Very excited for this tourney! Hoping to gain some bragging rights Wink

GreatGonzales · (This post was last modified: 01-16-2013 11:01 AM by GreatGonzales.)

(01-15-2013 05:39 AM)W1cked21 Wrote: Sign us up!
GC names: Mag!cGuy and Solidus NL

Edit: oh sry I thought we had to be placed individually :/ But we still haven't completed our placement matches

Ah, yeah - sorry!

Here is the TOURNAMENT BRACKET. Please begin your matches!

Reminder: the higher seeded team starts the match. To do this, invite both players of the other team to a friendly game on a map of your choice. Let me know if anyone has problems.

I will share my seeding spreadsheet later this evening.

PowerCrazy · 01-16-2013, 11:39 AM

Ok I've invited both and D0g fighter and seismicviking. The first map will be Blitz Beach.

Good luck all!

alexjiang1 · 01-16-2013, 01:21 PM

We just finished our first game. 1-0 us.

ImperialSun · 01-16-2013, 01:25 PM

Higher ranked teams already are more likely to get FTA due to the way matchmaking works. The rich get richer as a result. Why keep the same poor precedent in this tournament?

Hopefully Onemanleft just patches in an FTA fix for team games like they did for 1v1 so this won't be an issue...

liner15 · 01-16-2013, 01:53 PM

Jakeyboy20 and I are supposed to play schishoe/immad. Schishoe's game list is full and immad's username must be incorrect because it says player cannot be found. Help?

GreatGonzales · (This post was last modified: 01-16-2013 02:49 PM by GreatGonzales.)

(01-16-2013 01:25 PM)ImperialSun Wrote: Higher ranked teams already are more likely to get FTA due to the way matchmaking works. The rich get richer as a result. Why keep the same poor precedent in this tournament?

Hopefully Onemanleft just patches in an FTA fix for team games like they did for 1v1 so this won't be an issue...

I thought a lot about which team should get FTA. This is my reasoning. I want this tournament to be run smoothly and quickly, so I want matches to be best of 1. Higher ranked teams are more likely to be responsive, and thus the better candidates to initiate matches in a timely manner, but that is not an important factor.

Best of 1 means high FTA significance, so, who to give the advantage? I say the higher seeded team has more right to it than the lower seed because they have earned the advantage through their superior performance, which lead to their high seed. I think it's unfair to say that the "rich get richer", because that implies that there are two beneficial advantages unfairly bestowed upon them, namely 1. their easier draw, and 2. FTA. But item 1 is exactly what they deserve according to their seed, so this should not be considered in the calculation. In other words, it's not my job to give the lower seed an advantage on account of their more difficult draw. I will totally agree that giving high seed FTA is not fair. But I think it is slightly more fair than giving low seed FTA. My decision is a cost-benefit analysis in which I have attempted to maximize efficiency and fairness. The fact that the bracket is double elimination, and that matches become best of 3 in later rounds, also does a lot to mitigate this concern.

(01-16-2013 01:21 PM)alexjiang1 Wrote: We just finished our first game. 1-0 us.

Wow, that was fast! Please give me the replay link. As a reminder, this the format I would like for reporting match results:

[Team taking first turn]
[Team taking second turn]
[Map name]
[Winning team]
[Replay link]

(01-16-2013 01:53 PM)liner15 Wrote: Jakeyboy20 and I are supposed to play schishoe/immad. Schishoe's game list is full and immad's username must be incorrect because it says player cannot be found. Help?

I was worried about them. They were one of the few teams which I could not confirm using the OSN. Interestingly, immad does show up on the OSN (though no 2v2 team is listed, which is suspicious)...perhaps he deactivated his Outwitters account? In any case - give it a few days, keep trying to start a game with schishoe, I will PM him to see if I can figure out what the deal is. If you cannot start your match with them, then your opponents will be [ IIXIII ]/* LI3N *.

I have made the seeding spreadsheet available in the OP. Please note: the league, league points, and division rank that you provided when you registered may differ from the values you see in this spreadsheet. This is because I took values from the Outwitters Sports Network, which provides aggregated leaderboard data. The OSN's data was last updated on 1/14. This way, all player data was captured at the same moment in time, maximizing fairness of seeding. There were a few teams who could not be verified using the OSN; for these cases, I used the values provided upon registration.

liner15 · 01-16-2013, 02:53 PM

(01-16-2013 02:11 PM)GreatGonzales Wrote: I was worried about them. They were one of the few teams which I could not confirm using the OSN. Interestingly, immad does show up on the OSN (though no 2v2 team is listed, which is suspicious)...perhaps he deactivated his Outwitters account? In any case - give it a few days, keep trying to start a game with schishoe, I will PM him to see if I can figure out what the deal is. If you cannot start your match with them, then your opponents will be [ IIXIII ]/* LI3N *.

Ok awesome thanks!

jbadams01 · 01-16-2013, 09:05 PM

Gonzales, I hit the change team button on accident. What should we do?

GreatGonzales · 01-17-2013, 01:05 AM

(01-16-2013 09:05 PM)jbadams01 Wrote: Gonzales, I hit the change team button on accident. What should we do?

Not sure I understand. You mean you chose a team that you didn't want? How many turns have been taken in your match?