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Outwitters WORLD CUP Winner - Alvendor (SWEDEN)
09-01-2012, 05:54 AM (This post was last modified: 09-01-2012 06:27 AM by CombatEX.)
Post: #34
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP Signups (8 slots left)
I understand

9 - Gifted - 556 points - 57 wins
3 - Gifted - 570 points - 67 wins

being switched but I don't understand this

8 - Gifted - 369 points - 47 wins
23 - Gifted - 431 points - 86 wins
18 - Gifted - 381 points - 42 wins

Surely 18 should be above both 8 and 23.

Anyway I calculated the Points/Win: img37.imageshack.us/img37/1663/owcadjustedseeding.png (for some reason when I make this a link it keeps changing to something else when I refresh the page and try to click it again so I just leave it in this ugly form =P) NOTE: I meant 6 in the adjusted order column when I wrote 17. That's because I looked at the 17 in the seed column by accident instead of the player # column.

And here is the adjusted order (League order still takes precedence over P/W).

Old Order | Adjusted Order

Top 100
11 | 11
15 | 15
4 | 4
7 | 7
17 | 17
2 | 2
20 | 20
19 | 19
21 | 21

Master
1 | 13 *
10 | 10
5 | 5
13 | 1

Gifted
16 | 9
9 | 18
3 | 16
6 | 3
8 | 8
23 | 6
18 | 23

Clever
14 | 24
24 | 14
12 | 12

I actually think this would be a better order.

This is based on Points/Win. Obviously the problem is that if you've played more 2v2s then your rating will suffer some, but I think this will ultimately still be a much more accurate indication of skill since many people haven't played 2s and out of those who have, they'll probably have played quite a lot more 1s than 2s. Raw points means absolutely nothing as far as skill goes so why not use a system that does factor skill in in at least some way than one that neglects skill almost entirely. (I say almost because obviously if you lose EVERY game you'll have 0 points, but anything over 0 points doesn't say much).

I'm happy to do the calculations for the full player list when it is ready. (I have it set up in spread sheet already so it will be easy)

*Note that 13 has very few games played however so I'm not sure about this one. Everyone else has 300+ points though so aside from the aforementioned 2v2 issue I think this should be a fairly good representation of W/L (and as a result, relative skill).

tldr; Regardless of how good or bad an indication of skill P/W is, it's better than raw points which is no indication of skill.

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RE: Outwitter WORLD CUP - thelonepower - 08-30-2012, 10:44 AM
RE: Outwitter WORLD CUP - GreatGonzales - 08-30-2012, 11:01 AM
RE: Outwitter WORLD CUP - RandyDogz - 08-30-2012, 11:18 AM
RE: Outwitter WORLD CUP - swimj - 08-30-2012, 11:27 AM
RE: Outwitter WORLD CUP - Dawizerd - 08-30-2012, 12:13 PM
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RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP - Magnum - 08-30-2012, 09:53 PM
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP - awpertunity - 08-31-2012, 03:08 PM
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP - aaronINdayton - 08-30-2012, 10:08 PM
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP - Riptor - 08-30-2012, 10:37 PM
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP - P1noyboypj - 08-31-2012, 12:27 AM
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RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP - Ravernoth - 08-31-2012, 03:00 AM
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP - awpertunity - 08-31-2012, 03:45 AM
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP - Ravernoth - 08-31-2012, 04:47 AM
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP - GreatGonzales - 08-31-2012, 03:56 AM
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP - aaronINdayton - 08-31-2012, 04:18 AM
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP - Alvendor - 08-31-2012, 04:42 AM
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP - Necrocat219 - 08-31-2012, 04:43 AM
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP - Sakiehl - 08-31-2012, 06:09 AM
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP Signups (8 slots left) - CombatEX - 09-01-2012 05:54 AM
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP - STARTED - bmike - 09-07-2012, 11:35 AM
RE: Outwitters WORLD CUP - STARTED - swimj - 09-07-2012, 11:56 AM
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