FTA Bonus on Highlevel Games means nearly Autowin

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(08-21-2012 12:01 AM)ArtNJ Wrote:  

(08-20-2012 09:17 PM)awpertunity Wrote:  

(08-20-2012 06:16 PM)garcia1000 Wrote:  Well in any case it doesn't matter how big the FTA is.

It's because of the EXPLOIT that lets you start as P1 very often.

If it was fixed, then it doesn't matter if P1 wins 100% of the time. Since you have equal chance of being P1 or P2, then it's fair.

Are you kidding me? Why don't you just run along and flip a coin against your friends then. Sounds like great fun.

Wait, slow down, its a perfectly legit point unless the first turn advantage is indeed "autowin" or close which isnt established. If the first turn advantage is merely significant, then fixing the exploit would go a long way.

While I dont find the arguments against 3 wits for p1 first turn at all persuasive and think this is an obvious solution, closing the go first loophole is a good idea regardless.

Sounds like we're having two arguments. One over fun, another over fair. Fixing the p1 queuing makes it fair, but not necessarily fun if fta is making games uncompetitive. If there were a game where the rule is the first player wins, it would be a very boring game but would be fair if fta was evenly distributed. However, I do not think this is the case usually for outwitters.