Le Bramble v3.1

[GreatGonzales]

(03-21-2013 04:51 AM)1ucky Wrote:  GG, even if there is no wit return on kill, 2hp thorns will make bramble underpowered.
Soldier hordes will easily make their way through.
So really there is no reason to have wit for kill. If we were to still get wit for kill, bramble wouldn't just be underpowered, but completely unplayable.

I disagree...I think if Bramble thorns can attack, are 2 hp, and no wit return for kill, it's probably going to be overpowered. Perhaps more overpowered than the current situation (maybe but I doubt it).

As I see it, we are talking about three big buffs that we can turn on or off to get the maximally balanced Bramble:

1. Attacking thorns
2. 3hp thorns
3. No wit return for thorn kill

The first Bramble had only number 3. This was underpowered.
The next Bramble had only number 2. This was underpowered.
The next Bramble had numbers 1 and 2. This was overpowered.
Now, it sounds like the upcoming Bramble will have only 1. This will probably be underpowered.
You are suggesting giving the Bramble both 1 and 3; I think that would be overpowered again.

The problem is, each of these 3 buffs swing the viability of the Bramble by a significant amount. As a result, it's probably not possible to get the perfect Bramble; OML will only either be able to overshoot or undershoot that target. After seeing how unfun the Bramble is when it is powerful, I hope they undershoot.

If OML wants a perfectly balanced Bramble, I think they need to fundamentally change the mechanic of the unit; there are many proposals on the table, such as Alvendor's. But I think that is unlikely at this point.