Another Look at 2v2 Super Titan

[CombatEX]

(03-21-2013 03:11 AM)GreatGonzales Wrote:  

(03-21-2013 03:01 AM)CombatEX Wrote:  

(03-21-2013 02:57 AM)GreatGonzales Wrote:  The numbers:
As a percent of the total player base for 2v2, that's approximately 2%.

0.9% actually. This is a little higher than 1v1, but not enough that I see it as a problem. Especially because I agree with you that 2v2 is more top heavy than 1v1.

I imagine you probably only counted 2v2 arranged. Since arranged and randoms play each other and the distribution is based on all 2v2 you really should include both random and arranged.

FYI I went ahead and used 33 in place of 39, because the 39 from OSN is yesterday's number and also includes 6 duplicates. There are other duplicates I realize but I figured I'd at least control for 2v2 ST duplicates since this is the most important number.

Hmm. You think we should include 2v2 random players in the distribution? I'm not so sure... Though 2v2 arranged and 2v2 random teams may play together, they will never be included in the same league, right? When we discuss 2v2 arranged Masters league, for example, this is comprised 100% of arranged teams, no random teams, right? Plus, it's kind of weird to combine arranged teams (each 2 people) with random teams (each 1 person), seems like a category error. So I don't think it makes sense to include 2v2 random players in this analysis.

I don't think they should play each other, but as long as they do, we need to consider them together. I imagine that a Super-Titan random player is rated because they have a similar hidden skill as a 2v2 random team (pretty amazing all things considered). As such I don't see why we would not look at the stats with both in mind. You're right that in general 2v2 arranged are at a higher tier than 2v2 random, but that is already reflected in the stats (the fact that the higher leagues are larger in arranged than random).

Also, sorry for my ninja edit. I posted this too:

CombatEX Wrote:Should 2v2 arranged play randoms in the first place? Now that's a good question. But as long as they do, you should really consider them together.

2v2% (1v1%)
0.9% (0.5%) ST 43
11.4% (4.5%) M 542
15.6% (26.3%) G 742
29.8% (31.6%) C 1418
42.3% (37%) F 2014
TOTAL 4759

I think my biggest gripe with the 2v2 distribution involves Fluffy and Gifted, not Super-Titan.

If we use your 33 ST number then ST is even more reasonable. I do think random and arranged shouldn't even play each other, but as long as that's the case, let's count them together.