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Please buff The Scrambler
03-10-2013, 01:12 PM (This post was last modified: 03-10-2013 01:25 PM by CombatEX.)
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RE: Please buff The Scrambler
(03-07-2013 05:56 PM)Necrocat219 Wrote:  I think that a scrambler gaining +2 wits on the turn it scrambles would be a perfectly reasonable buff, making it something too significant would probably make it OP (4 movement would be really evil as a spawn attack Tongue) However just to note that with all these buffs a 'power creep' is taking place. Okay I just got the image of one day have a 5hp scrambler, Nuke Bombshell Mobi that units can move after being teleported and free thorns. XD

The bonus wits on scramble is an interesting thought that never occurred to me. Not sure if I prefer it over scrambled units simply retaining some health, but nice thought regardless worth considering.

As for power creep, I don't know if it is necessarily. Veggienauts were terrible and clearly needed a buff so we can ignore them. What about Feedback getting buffed then? Well, personally I think it is more important to nerf Adorables than it is to buff Feedback. Adorables clearly trump both Scallywags and Feedback at the moment (just look at all the high level players over a protracted period of time). The question is, is Feedback disadvantaged against Scallywags? If so, then Feedback should be buffed. However, it is hard to tell because everyone is playing Adorables and FvS games have become relatively uncommon in high level play.

(03-09-2013 07:46 AM)ElPared Wrote:  I think if the scrambled units stayed at their current health it would make the wit investment needed to kill Scramblers closer to the other specials. This way you could use the scrambled units to shield the scrambler allowing for more uses.

Though I would like to try this buff, as you mention, it is risky. If you can use a scrambler more than once it usually gives you an extreme advantage. The problem with balancing the scrambler is that there is a dramatic difference between scrambling one unit vs two units. For example, say that you scrambler a soldier 2 moves from your opponents spawn and 3 moves from yours. Your opponent loses 4 wits effective value. In the mean time you gain 5 wits value from that soldier (2 wits to spawn and 3 moves to get over there). However, the soldier has 1 health which is like your opponent having spent 1 wit to damage it. Let's just say that it's worth 4 wits. So this means you've gained 8 wits advantage by scrambling that soldier. Now, if you are able to use your scrambler again, you gain another ~8 wit advantage. The point is that each time you scrambler a unit you gain a massive wit advantage over your opponent. Of course, when you lose your scrambler you lose a lot of wits too. The point though is that scrambler wit gains and losses are very volatile compared to other teams. Bombshells and mobis (in conjunction with offensive units) pick away at defenses each turn to gain small advantages over time instead of a massive one all at once.

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Please buff The Scrambler - blckace - 03-07-2013, 10:39 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - blckace - 03-07-2013, 10:50 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - laYahooz - 03-07-2013, 11:02 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - Ja Karta - 03-07-2013, 11:18 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - Uvafan173 - 03-07-2013, 11:07 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - laYahooz - 03-07-2013, 02:49 PM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - blckace - 03-07-2013, 11:26 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - vegaprom - 03-07-2013, 11:43 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - Norahsul - 03-07-2013, 01:14 PM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - vegaprom - 03-07-2013, 01:30 PM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - 1ucky - 03-07-2013, 02:42 PM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - CombatEX - 03-10-2013 01:12 PM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - Gavin Wins - 03-08-2013, 05:04 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - Alvendor - 03-08-2013, 06:39 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - laYahooz - 03-08-2013, 11:32 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - Ja Karta - 03-08-2013, 07:18 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - ElPared - 03-08-2013, 07:31 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - Ryzuma - 03-08-2013, 07:53 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - zer0CD - 03-08-2013, 08:48 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - zer0CD - 03-08-2013, 08:52 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - blckace - 03-08-2013, 10:40 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - OW11 - 03-09-2013, 04:44 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - ElPared - 03-09-2013, 06:06 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - Ja Karta - 03-09-2013, 06:54 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - ElPared - 03-09-2013, 07:46 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - blckace - 03-10-2013, 01:36 PM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - blckace - 03-10-2013, 01:49 PM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - GoHeat 3 - 03-10-2013, 02:23 PM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - blckace - 03-10-2013, 02:39 PM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - Pareesauce - 03-10-2013, 11:33 PM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - Mrdemaria - 03-10-2013, 03:35 PM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - Piko - 03-10-2013, 11:51 PM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - Harti - 03-11-2013, 12:41 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - Piko - 03-11-2013, 03:03 AM
RE: Please buff The Scrambler - garcia1000 - 03-11-2013, 01:07 AM

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