The New Point System

[phineas94]

@combatex Well I'm glad the "justgate saga" has been clarified, perspective is a great thing and I still read my posts on page 3 of this thread (If you have 10 posts a page like I do) as a continual stream of questionable consciousness. Your post in at number 9 threw me as it wasn't directed at anyone (although contained a quote from daHsu) and to be quite honest I didn't see how it fitted in with the previous posts. Anyhow hopefully that's put to bed. Let's just see.

I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on which system was better. My take on the previous system was, that while it was more reflective of skill, the point allocation was disheartening. I also commented on the fact that the old system favoured "form" with a example of a player who goes on a 10 game winning streak and ending up near or at the top of their division. Overall though, and I believe you were in my division, a player who is more skilled (70%+ winning average) would be at the top until they were promoted - I felt this had a more detrimental affect on league aspirations than the current one. As has been mentioned many times with regards to several aspects of outwitters if you want to achieve something in your division play more, win more!

As for the "runaway leaders", like I said they're not common and while your stats on supertitans points vs skill data is an interesting read I personally, as mentioned in my previous post, think you can discount the division placement in this league due to the reasons listed. A more telling story is from looking at the fluffy to master level ( or "the player base as a whole"). What is a runaway leader? As a start I was looking at a number 1 player who was 200 pts above the 10th placed player (roughly 10-12 wins ahead- not an insurmountable lead) and, although present they are not rampant. Again, mentioned many times, look to the top 200 list for an appraisal of your skill and look to the division for a bit of "in game" interest.

One aspect that I do think needs addressing is newly promoted players keeping their points and ending up top of their new league. Again, as I've said before, I'd rather be a 0pt rank 48 supertitan than a 794pt rank 1 master. Removing these carried forward points would also eliminate yet more "runaway leaders".

As for the confusion of the whole points scored/ position in league/ promotion/ demotion I'm sort of getting fed up with pandering to the lowest common denominator. Promotion/demotion mechanics are explained in the "in game" help tab (Win lots=promotion, lose lots = demotion). If unsure, read the many threads on this forum, it will sort of make sense eventually.

As always more than 2 sides to an argument, but as a last example of my preference of the new system, I recently played an opponent several places higher than me in my own division (but lower in hidden skill). I came out 3-0 up with the following points +20/-5, +20/-4 & +19/-4. I can follow these points and understand them (It would have been interesting for a loss to be posted to compare) I'm pretty sure that the random number generator of the last system would have left a lot of question marks. Perhaps an increased chance of matching up with someone in your own division would also increase the interest in result/points gained/lost and turn the whole division placement into a competition rather than the procession of the last system.