Bump these teams to SuperTitan please!!!

[Mr.Banger]

(02-20-2013 01:40 AM)GreatGonzales Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 03:02 PM)Mr.Banger Wrote:  

(02-19-2013 02:50 PM)GreatGonzales Wrote:  

Quote:I choose option 1. It would make absoloutly no sense for OML to make the 2v2 threshold higher. Absoloutly no sense whatsoever. It's just only 2 teams have passed this threshold of 2v2 ST that is the same as 1v1 ST.

I need to clarify your position: do you believe that:

A. 1v1 and 2v2 ST leagues are equally prestigious?
B. that the hidden skill threshold required to be promoted to ST is equal between 1v1 and 2v2? Or
C. Both A and B

Will respond to the rest when you can clarify this for me.

I feel this question is mined. But I'll bite and go with C

You're right that the question is mined in that these positions are in contradiction with the facts.

First of all - 1v1 and 2v2 are NOT equally prestigious. It's clearly much more difficult to become a 2v2 ST than a 1v1 ST. How do I know this? Because the 1v1 ST league became populous so quickly, relative to the 2v2 ST league. Even after 7 months we do not see a populous 2v2 ST league, and the 2v2 league is also smaller than the 1v1 ST league as a percentage of the relative population (someone did this analysis already by looking at the OSN, forget who is was).

Said another way: if the 1v1 and 2v2 ST leagues are intended to be equally prestigious, how then do you explain the state of affairs that we see currently? This is what I meant by bringing up the comparison between high 2v2 masters and low 1v1 ST. There ISN'T a clear distinction, in fact I would argue that high 2v2 masters are probably better relative to their population than low 1v1 ST. But that's a matter of opinion, take it or leave it. But don't come back with this argument that there is a big difference between 2v2 ST and high 2v2 masters, because there is also a big difference between high 1v1 ST and low 1v1 ST. Savvy?

Regarding the notion that the hidden skill threshold is the same for 1v1 and 2v2 ST promotion, we really can't say since it's a black box. But I think you're probably right, probably OML used the same skill threshold for 1v1 and 2v2 populations - which is why there is a problem. They probably did not incorporate the smaller population of 2v2 players, which would explain why the 2v2 ST league is artificially small. Or, if you prefer, why the 2v2 ST league is smaller relative to the population than the 1v1 ST league. Bottom line: the leagues are out of whack, between 1v1 and 2v2.

I guess this discussion is no longer necessary, since Alex has confirmed that they are working on a fix.

I would argue back, but the point is moot now I guess