Which Maps to Retire?

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(02-07-2013 08:42 AM)The RawkHawk Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 07:05 AM)GreatGonzales Wrote:  

(02-07-2013 01:31 AM)burnodrod Wrote:  I believe that all maps can be fixed.
On SI we need to remove the top hex to fix "the sniper hole" bug.
On Reaper this could be the fix for "the Mobi rush" problem (not shure though, need to test).

And this is the fix that I suggest for SP.
People who hate Sweetie Plains probably can't find the reason why they always lose the games on that map. There is a witspace on this map that you think it's yours. But it's not! Seriously, SP is the only map that has a witspace on equal distance from your spawn and your opponent's spawn. Check all other 1v1 and 2v2 maps out! Furthermore, you have an obstacle on your way to that witspace, while your opponent has a wide straight way which makes it easier for him to attack than for you to defend.
All STs know about that feature resulting in boring stupid fights for that one witspace. I suggest to move this witspace one hex closer to the base and remove one obstacle. Additionaly, it could be useful to get rid of some obstacles in the center of the map to ginger up fighting in that area.

+1 these changes. Though, why remove the back door entirely from reaper? That's kind of the "point" of that map.

But it sounds like this is the sort of thing that OML is proposing, they use the term "remixed" maps.

I also believe all maps can and *should* be fixed rather than being removed. However - I also don't want to see changes that completely invalidate previously possible lines of attack (See the proposed Reaper change in this post for an example of what I mean). Mobi rush on reaper is dumb and should be fixed - but that doesnt mean a player should not be able to attack up the weaker side at all. Also - remember that the less lines of attack, the more it benefits turtling. And I don't like turtling.

Kind of random, but is the reaper rush still a problem? I don't use the rush anymore because I figure/have found that people generally know how to defend against it. Additionally, I pretty much always successfully defend the rush when I am P2 against adorables.