The New Point System

[phineas94]

Just to clarify my position. I would like a league determined by points gained with only a small consideration of skill level applied ( Which seems to be what we've got now, so hooray!) and a greater range of published rank available to more/all players ( Is this possible CombatEX/ Great Gonzales et al, is that data there and just not published or is it a back-breaking labour of love just to get the top 200 out?).

(02-01-2013 02:30 AM)zoraster Wrote:  We don't even know how many games each player has played, so your "fix" (insofar as it solves any problem at all) won't work. All we have to go on is number of wins, and it's hard to tell how many people had last week versus this week.

I didn't intend that we, the players, carried out this equation but rather that it was implemented by the system which must surely have our win/loss data somewhere....doesn't it? Ideally, when you look at your league you would see your points ( after the balancing equation has been applied) and your rank, be you number 1 or number 10000. I know people are now going to shout about the 50/50 win/loss ratio and how that would make the league table meaningless but wouldn't the slight variation in points gained/lost and players, in reality, varying from 60/40 to 40/60 in their win/loss record give us enough differentiation?

(02-01-2013 02:30 AM)zoraster Wrote:  The thing to understand about casual players is not that they "just wanna have fun." It's that they want to achieve things OR they want really mindless fun. Farmville wasn't a success because nobody cared about whether they won or lost (since you can't "win" that game), it was because you were ever developing. Obviously Outwitters does not lend itself to that kind of thing, but I don't think this hidden system with a dearth of information about game statistics helps (no win-loss record, no showing what % of games you've played as which team, no records indexed by map, etc.).

I completely agree about better access to the statistics be it through the game or as a paid add-on or even better, all games finished are automatically sent to the OSN - I do believe codepenguin is partial to more stats although I don't know if this amount is within the realms of reality. As for casual players, like you say zoraster, Outwitters isn't for them and I don't think it ever will be. I found it by googling "turn based strategy game" not because I thought the logo was cute. I could go on, but this time I won't