Interesting philosophical question :)

[brayton]

Yeah, since with the plane its less i choose you to die and more that (smaller) group is 'effected'.
It seems less personal. Like not im killing someone, its more so such large area is killed with me, less single person sacrificng.. Just seems less personaly... Yes i wouldnt go for city.

Reply to the office email question..
I ask boss if i can say.
He says no. Damm.
I tell freind that she might be cheating, mabey make up scenareo(she called me, thinking i was the other guy). He is very cautios. He might see it, but if ot life is still good for him(lol, it aint as good as it semms). No need to mention email....
(how much did the lol effect things. I thought id just put it there to show the change in oppinion of me)

As for the Daughter being *****, well i would tell authorities of him not killing her, but that he raped her. Trial goes either way for him, but definatly no prison for merder atleast.

As for daughter drowning. If i had a daugther, if its 50-50 chance she dies, verses 100% chance neice dies, id go for neice if it is 75% daughter, but as for how it is(50%) id go for daughter.
She is your daughter, and there would allways be bias..she is your child. Just my selfishness. Dont send your kids to me(!!!)

And as for the Phone cenario with fat man, lots of people are on phones at train stations these days(not sure about days before) and so there is quite a bit of likely hood to be able to gather some info on the person.

Also, say with the email, how its nore realsitic, or the man and your daughter, It gives too many options to REALLY force your hand.

As for the Plane vs Lever vs Fat man thing, its how its displayed. Wiping out heeps of people or steering away from them(albeit at a cost of others), pushing a man to his death to save others or kiling a man during the process of saving the others. Its really quite different. Plane is more passive, lever is more 'colateral damage/unfortunate happening' while pushing is a very Active thing, it just dont happen . I mean the difference is pushing is his death is the action, while lever is death as a consequence. Might make a good interactive novel or game, titled MORAL.... Dun dun dahhh!!!

Alternative to the Plane thing...
Sorry if this offends anyone based upon their countries past.

The rebublic of MoO is at war, after the communistic country QUaCK started invading in a horible movtive of Genocide. The war is just starting, and the people are angry, causing riots about their leaders actions, while the rest support them in the hainous motion.

60% whant to overthrow the government, but have little miltiary power. 40% are racist and support the government. The government has power over the people due to their military might. Killing those who are rioting.

After day, or a short time of war, QUaCK has allready killed far to many, in horrible ways.
Since the war is fresh, the neirboughing country BARK(neirboughs to both MoO and QUaCK) hasnt had time to react properly. Airlines are now being halted, but not before some have left. Nuclear weapons are on a plane operated by a BARK crew. QUaCK has started acting against BARK, but hasnt attacked.
Masses of MoO families are seeking refuge in BARK, and BARK allows that since they are such good Allies, the people never being hostile and caring deeply. The MoO government has offered support when natural disaster stikes. The Plane is transporting Nuclaer weapons to SQUeAK, a country attacked by others in a completly different contenent. SQUeAK is the victim, and will perish if not for the aid of BARK. The Plane is shot by QUaCK forces, and is overhead the border of MoO and QUaCK, with no other lands in sight.

The Plane, losing Alititude quickly, has options. The land directly below is the rural/suberb area of COWLAND. It could make it there, but the smaller population will perish in the Explosion.
On the same side of the border, it could hit DIARY, a mid sized city of MoO.
Killing all in the city.
Over the border

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over the border, QUaCK is nearby. It has suberbia, known to be a region strongly supporting The militay acts. Furher away, but still within reach the Capitol city of QUaCK's most powerful region, DUCK. DUCK has 40-60 in the support/dissaproval of the military act. The city AVIARY, OF DUCK has a large amount of troops to suppress and kill rioters and opposers Of the Goverment. Other troops are moving through here to reach the front line.

Your question is, where do you crash.
Kill the least amount of people, that would likely die in the following days,
Kill small-medium amounts of mostly racist enimies wanting genocide,
Wipe out the large city, killing millions. Some are enemy supporters, while others are civilians taken, abused and given no choice to the matters. Many Enemy troops are here.

This choice could define the war.
Many deaths could save many lives.
This attack could stop the war, or give the other countries time to save the citizens.

Although BARK is not at war with QUaCK, they dissaprove of them, but are fearful of uprising.
Even though you are not at war with them, you dont think its right.

Please change stats to make it harder choice.

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I tried to not referance any real countries, so chose cows, dogs and ducks were a safe way to go.

I personally have a mixed oppion about war.
Being at my age, i havent developed to that extent morally.
I remember being young, thinking that at night in bed that a soldeir shooting another with a gun is the same as murder, only legal. I also thought how can commanders bomb places, killing the residents, when the troops are just residents with guns, defending their stake, working their job, without a say in who dies(in the long run).
See due to my religious raising, i was taught that killing is up with the worst things you can do, and so i didnt understand a difference between 'tactially' killing for 'defense' verses 'heartless/cold' killing of civilians.

TheKwirtiest(haha, ......ok im sorry, please dont hurt me, im sorry, ok...) and any others with a background in Physocology please help..... What is the morally right decision.
How many lives are worth the cost to take down a group of men who call the shots.
Really, war is not agianst a nation, its against a group of men who order death.

Whats your oppinions