No one expects you to scramble Runners

[PETA] Doodat · 08-06-2013, 09:49 AM

(08-06-2013 09:35 AM)TheQwertiest Wrote: Why the alt account? Why not your main one.
I used to use that excuse of just having fun cause I was afraid that I couldnt make it even if I will try. If its the same situation with you I wouldnt know, maybe its just me.
Getting worked up is seeing it as a challenge. Just like buying any game.
If you encounter a hard part do you just stop playing cause you get worked up a bit?

Nope

. The alt is so that I can start fresh. I'll make it if I take the time, but with school starting in a week, I might slow down. I'll get there though. Back to the alt, it's the idea with mmr, it's easier for my alt to jump up faster, so it was faster to make an alt and get up faster. For example, say my alt was at 500. I have played like 5 matches, so I play a match and jump to 550. If that was my main, which has 300+ matches, it might only go up to 501.

**TheQwertiest** · 08-06-2013, 10:08 AM

Actually its very easy to rise up if youre actually above your current level.
On my understanding of the hidden rating it not about the number of matches you have under your belt. Its who you are up against. Lets say your main account has 300+ matches and a hidden rating of 500 and your alt account with 5 matches and 500 hr. If you play with the same person(lets say 550), you'd get the same amount of increase in hr on which ever of the two accounts you use.

[PETA] Doodat · 08-06-2013, 10:14 AM

That's partially correct. However, due to the rise of new players, all new players, at the beginning, are given a huge skew in hidden rating. This means that they have the ability to rise up and fall down very quickly to adjust to true level. If you had compared 100+ to 200+ matches, that would be very similar. The hidden ranking skew should pan out by around 50 matches to a base formula, but with new players, a key example is if you win all 5 placement matches, regardless of opponents' hidden ranking, your next match will decide whether you are placed into masters. Makes sense? And whenever I try to start a friendly with you, it says "Player does not exist"

**TheQwertiest** · 08-06-2013, 10:27 AM

Well i think the placement matches just sets you up for the base HR. Once you finish the 5 placement matches you get your HR
ie.
(placement matches)
1 win= 100hr
2wins= 200hr
...
5wins= 500hr

then it goes from there.
Where do you get your information anyway? mine is just my understanding of how the system works.

[PETA] Doodat · 08-06-2013, 10:35 AM

From reading up about ELO system, which is what most hidden rating systems use. And from past knowledge. Usually they start you off at a hidden rating, say, 500. You go up or down. From what I've seen, you move more often at the beginning. One example would be the ranking system of various video games such as League of Legends.

**TheQwertiest** · (This post was last modified: 08-06-2013 10:39 AM by TheQwertiest.)

(08-06-2013 10:35 AM)Doodat Wrote: From reading up about ELO system, which is what most hidden rating systems use. And from past knowledge. Usually they start you off at a hidden rating, say, 500. You go up or down. From what I've seen, you move more often at the beginning. One example would be the ranking system of various video games such as League of Legends.

did adam or alex say they used the same system? i really dont remember reading anything about them explaining how it works. link pls

[PETA] Doodat · 08-06-2013, 10:42 AM

(08-06-2013 10:39 AM)TheQwertiest Wrote:
(08-06-2013 10:35 AM)Doodat Wrote: From reading up about ELO system, which is what most hidden rating systems use. And from past knowledge. Usually they start you off at a hidden rating, say, 500. You go up or down. From what I've seen, you move more often at the beginning. One example would be the ranking system of various video games such as League of Legends.

did adam or alex say they used the same system? i really dont remember reading anything about them explaining how it works. link pls

Geez, I don't see why you seem so argumentative. I'm just saying what I think, I'm not saying this is right. Okay, you're right. That's fine by me.

**TheQwertiest** · (This post was last modified: 08-06-2013 10:48 AM by TheQwertiest.)

No. its not my purpose to be argumentative. I'm just curious if youve found something that i havent. Cause earlier you said that i was partially correct so i assumed you based this from facts. -that you knew what the correct one was

[PETA] Doodat · 08-06-2013, 10:48 AM

I'm pretty sure that placement divisions, ie fluffy, gifted, st, require at least the first few games, and a couple after the first few placement matches to have a different weighting than later matches. Idk, I may be wrong. Sorry, I was implying that I knew exactly what was going on and I don't.

**TheQwertiest** · 08-06-2013, 10:51 AM

I also apologize if I seemed like I was going for an argument. I just thought that maybe I missed an announcement or post that the devs made explaining how the system works. I was curious cause I also want to better understand how the system works.