(11-21-2012 09:33 PM)Harti Wrote:I hope you guys have a close eye on all of the stats and can automatically analyze live replays by using your handy tool.

I've finished 6 live games or so and have got roundabout 10 to go. I chose a variety of different races. I lost or am losing almost every game. A possible valid reason for that would be that I'm using outdated or untested tactics. However, I'm feeling that a Scallywag turtler (not necessarily turtler, also people who know how to push with Bombshells) has still got an advantage.

A handful of games were also decided by the +1 wit rule which completely ruined my attacking forces. I was unable to counterattack due to a lack of useful units (I played Veggienauts each time that happened). Yeah, I had a Bramble around but I don't have any idea how to use the Thorns against a good player. They've got a Bombshell, so they're going to crush my Barriers no matter what, especially thanks to the parent-child mechanic. It ruins pretty much everything...

So how's Veggienauts matchups?

Veggienauts << Feedback (scrambled Barriers act as a Bramble!)
Veggienauts << Scallywags (no way to attack, except you use 4 HP Soldiers only)
Veggienauts <= Adorables (close to even but I assume Mobi grants more flexibility)
Veggienauts == Veggienauts (x)


They don't seem to have an edge over any of the existing teams provided you're playing against good players. This makes them a somewhat bad choice both as P1 and P2 as you've got the massive chance to hit one of your death races, Scallywags or Feedback.


I have no idea about this - but the metagame doesn't seem to have changed at all. It's still 4 HP Soldiers + Bombshells all over the place. It's efficient and effective.

Scallywags >> Veggienauts (If they attack, they most of the time only manage to destroy 1-2 units. In a counterattack you're blasting away 4 or more).
Scallywags >= Feedback (can hold Scramblers at a distance but Scramblers will be able to convert your first Soldier row, possibly destroying at least 1 of your Shells)
Scallywags <= Adorables (Mobisnipers give Adorables a small edge but if defended right it won't help them)
Scallywags == Scallywags (x)


Ya maybe it's just me bitching around while actually everything is fine, but I have the feeling that the game is somewhat broken. The +1 is everything but balanced. As of turn 5, I'm giving p1noyboypj a hard time countering SFI FTA... (he's going to beat me though because I'll probably make some flaws). This is just weird.

(11-22-2012 06:58 AM)oneadamleft Wrote:We're giving it a while before we run the numbers. Adding iPhone 5 support, then we'll take a pass if we need to.

(12-09-2012 07:56 AM)Harti Wrote:

(11-22-2012 06:58 AM)oneadamleft Wrote:We're giving it a while before we run the numbers. Adding iPhone 5 support, then we'll take a pass if we need to.

Any time for running analyses yet?

I'd mostly be interested in Super-Titan numbers, like so:
- Team Choice overall
- Team Choice, excluding people who only own the free version
- A table showing the win ratios of teams like:

Code:

win % | SW | AD | FB | VN
-------------------------
vs SW | -- | 45 | 35 | 10
vs AD | 55 | -- | 40 | 20
vs FB | 65 | 60 | -- | 40
vs VN | 90 | 80 | 60 | --

^best would be if we had that also grouped by maps!

(12-12-2012 01:35 AM)garcia1000 Wrote:  Hey guys.

A little about me, I am a Scallywags player. I think that Veggienauts cannot beat Scallywags on any map as either 1p or 2p. Except for strategies that don't involve special units obv, such as foundry rush. Anyone disagree? If so, I will play game as Scallywags and win.

So I was thinking maybe OML is going the route of having deliberately imbalanced matchups? Scallywags might beat Veggienauts, but maybe Adorables can beat Scallywags (like on Reaper), and Veggienauts can beat Adorables. Personally I would like it much more if every team had roughly equal chances against each other. What do you guys think?

(12-12-2012 03:19 AM)CombatEX Wrote:  I hope you are wrong because that would be a terrible design choice (I'm pretty sure you're wrong though because Alex is a Starcraft fan and balance in all matchups is an important issue in Starcraft).