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RE: Petition: We want 2v2 top lists! - GreatGonzales - 12-12-2012 04:50 AM
(12-12-2012 03:33 AM)Eijolend Wrote: I have a theory why it may take so long. Since random teams are matched up against organized teams, maybe the matchmaking data is stored in a way, that you need to implement some kind of filter, to only get the ones you want.
Surely they have analysis tools to handle this. But I would love to hear this sort of explanation from OML.
RE: Petition: We want 2v2 top lists! - Gf!sh - 12-12-2012 05:03 AM
(12-12-2012 03:33 AM)Eijolend Wrote: I have a theory why it may take so long. Since random teams are matched up against organized teams, maybe the matchmaking data is stored in a way, that you need to implement some kind of filter, to only get the ones you want.
I hate that so badly. It feels like a disadvantage as the random player, and i fell like that shouldn't happen.
RE: Petition: We want 2v2 top lists! - CombatEX - 12-12-2012 07:22 AM
(12-12-2012 03:33 AM)Eijolend Wrote: I have a theory why it may take so long. Since random teams are matched up against organized teams, maybe the matchmaking data is stored in a way, that you need to implement some kind of filter, to only get the ones you want.
That's how it is in Starcraft, but you're sure Outwitters matches random with arranged? I've only played against arranged teams as an arranged team so I wouldn't know.
RE: Petition: We want 2v2 top lists! - Coolio - 12-12-2012 07:35 AM
(12-12-2012 07:22 AM)CombatEX Wrote:(12-12-2012 03:33 AM)Eijolend Wrote: I have a theory why it may take so long. Since random teams are matched up against organized teams, maybe the matchmaking data is stored in a way, that you need to implement some kind of filter, to only get the ones you want.
That's how it is in Starcraft, but you're sure Outwitters matches random with arranged? I've only played against arranged teams as an arranged team so I wouldn't know.
When I've played random it always seems I'm against teams that aren't random.
RE: Petition: We want 2v2 top lists! - GreatGonzales - 12-12-2012 07:44 AM
Perhaps there are merely more organized teams than randoms? This would make sense because there is a 2:1 ratio people selecting random, people organizing a team.
RE: Petition: We want 2v2 top lists! - joelduque - 12-12-2012 08:07 AM
Don't bother with making a 2v2 list if 2v2 random is not made into another list, which is really a different universe than 2v2 with a dedicated, preselected teammate/buddy.
I suggest a global top 2v2 list with the following sublists:
1. 2v2 'partnered' and
2. 2v2 random
RE: Petition: We want 2v2 top lists! - Coolio - 12-12-2012 08:55 AM
You have to remember that is a lot of work. They are already maintaining one list now adding 2 plus fixing bugs, makin new teams, working on twilit to live, producing more games. I'm not tryin to pick a fight here but I just want to give you a possible Adam and Alex perspective. Would you rather have 2v2 lists or the game to be updated and new teams added?
RE: Petition: We want 2v2 top lists! - joelduque - 12-12-2012 09:02 AM
My point is that if ever we want something new like a top list, at least I like it to make as much sense and significance as possible. I'm all for the game's development. So it is pretty much what direction the devs want it to take. They are geniuses; it is a given.
RE: Petition: We want 2v2 top lists! - Coolio - 12-12-2012 09:04 AM
Well obviously. (And by the way I was not either of the people who voted for no)
RE: Petition: We want 2v2 top lists! - GreatGonzales - 12-12-2012 09:17 AM
(12-12-2012 08:07 AM)joelduque Wrote: Don't bother with making a 2v2 list if 2v2 random is not made into another list, which is really a different universe than 2v2 with a dedicated, preselected teammate/buddy.
I suggest a global top 2v2 list with the following sublists:
1. 2v2 'partnered' and
2. 2v2 random
I'm not sure they can provide a top 2v2 random list...what would that be? A top list among randoms who happen to be partnered with each other a lot, and also win a lot? Or would it be a list of single players who do random 2v2 and win a lot, so really it would be another form of top single player.
I think for simplicity's sake, OML should just provide top 2v2 teams, plain and simple. If by some miracle there is a random team in the top list, good for them! Incredibly unlikely of course. If someone was serious enough about 2v2, they would find a partner.