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RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Gf!sh - 02-01-2013 12:28 AM
I do think I can beat that kind of play style as Adorables. Happen to be grounded, so I cannot really test it as of now...
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - 2dhh - 02-01-2013 12:58 AM
He's a troll!
Scolding him in chat would be feeding the troll. I hope the bombshell gets nerfed to 3Hp healed.
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - vegaprom - 02-01-2013 01:57 AM
If he's a BS spam I think the best way is to bring a buffed runner and buffed soldier and kill it. (He probably doesn't buffed the BS if he spams that often.) Anyway, what I said is theoretical and in fact it takes over 10-20 turns to take down 1 bombshell and when my opp spawns many BSs what I do is to spawn more BSs too (as Scallywags).
Bombshell looks too buff but I think it is nerf compared to Mobi, especially in 1-spawn map.
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - daHsu - 02-01-2013 02:07 AM
(02-01-2013 12:28 AM)Gfich Wrote: I do think I can beat that kind of play style as Adorables. Happen to be grounded, so I cannot really test it as of now...
Adorables can probably compete with Scallywags, but what about the other teams?
Will post replays soon (actually not soon, since he's stalling
)... It's very hard to kill them early, as you will see.
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - aaronINdayton - 02-01-2013 03:04 AM
I'd love to see some replays. It sounds like he makes BSs and waits, and people run into his BS wall and wonder why they lose?
Seems like boosted soldier spam would win in this scenario, but I have to see some replays, I really don't understand.
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - John3:16 - 02-01-2013 03:46 AM
I play Scallywags, so perhaps I'm biased, but I think a 3 HP buffed BS nerf would be too much. Adorables are already the chosen team for all the high ranked players and a 3 HP buffed BS would mean a mobi can easily take it out, feedback would easily take it out...actually just about everybody could easily take them out.
The point is it's supposed to be tough, but can't move. 3HP buffed in actuality is not that tough and can usually be taken down pretty easily. It would also mean deploying a BS would pretty much necessarily mean buffing them.
Not sure if this is a great example, but you can generally overcome entrenched bombshells with some planning and soldiers (and saved wits).
http://www.osn.codepenguin.com/replays/view/ag5vdXR3aXR0ZXJzZ2FtZXIRCxIIR2FtZVJvb20YgsjAAgw
Even though my soldiers had some bombshell assist to soften the outside guards, the soldier push was able to overcome two entrenched bombshells.
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - daHsu - 02-01-2013 10:20 AM
Uncovering a bombshell generally takes more wits than it takes to set one up (perhaps 3 buffed soldiers if the opponent is smart, and you end up losing all of them), so the only way to win is to use unit/base hp advantage.
Ironically, I won on the 2 scallywag maps against reverse DP
Long Nine
SFI
Both of them were essentially won because he didn't have enough mobile units to guard his base, and good scrambler positioning. I'm losing on the other games, but I ain't giving up yet!
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - Ja Karta - 02-01-2013 10:58 AM
I like how on SFI you refused to finish off his base using his own BS and insisted on double runners instead.
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - 2dhh - 02-01-2013 11:19 AM
(02-01-2013 10:20 AM)daHsu Wrote: Uncovering a bombshell generally takes more wits than it takes to set one up (perhaps 3 buffed soldiers if the opponent is smart, and you end up losing all of them), so the only way to win is to use unit/base hp advantage.
Ironically, I won on the 2 scallywag maps against reverse DP
Long Nine
SFI
Both of them were essentially won because he didn't have enough mobile units to guard his base, and good scrambler positioning. I'm losing on the other games, but I ain't giving up yet!
I saw the long nine match, you played fantastically and won on turn 24, which is quite fast. Props to you!
his defense looked really scary, if it was me I might have just given up by turn 18
RE: More Bombshell Trouble - daHsu - 02-01-2013 12:26 PM
(02-01-2013 11:19 AM)2dhh Wrote:(02-01-2013 10:20 AM)daHsu Wrote: Uncovering a bombshell generally takes more wits than it takes to set one up (perhaps 3 buffed soldiers if the opponent is smart, and you end up losing all of them), so the only way to win is to use unit/base hp advantage.
Ironically, I won on the 2 scallywag maps against reverse DP
Long Nine
SFI
Both of them were essentially won because he didn't have enough mobile units to guard his base, and good scrambler positioning. I'm losing on the other games, but I ain't giving up yet!
I saw the long nine match, you played fantastically and won on turn 24, which is quite fast. Props to you!
Ha I used to give up a lot too, but you know what? It's always worth it to take one last attack. And after watching lots of ST replays, I found that it's always possible to recover from lots of really bad situations.